A New U.S. Grand Strategy: The Case for Multipolar Pluralism, With Stephen Heintz

Stephen Heintz, president and CEO of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, sits down with James M. Lindsay of the President's Inbox podcast to discuss how the United States should adapt to an era of renewed great power competition and domestic disagreement over what it should seek to achieve abroad.

Listen to the full interview on The President's Inbox, a podcast by the Council on Foreign Relations.